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Budwood/Scionwood Sales PDF Print Email
Ask the Grower

Question: Do you sell apple scionwood?
If yes, is there a list of the varieties available?
Thanks,
EARL

Answer: Short Answer - Depends.  We sell budwood and scionwood from our extensive orchards if it makes sense as a business.  In other words it should make some profit and not provide proprietary wood to entities not licensed to grow it.  Minimum of 500 buds to even think about it.

 

Long Answer:

Here is the process required to process a budwood/scionwood request:

1)Qualify request and take order:

Manager - usually me - takes the call and determines if the request is something we can or want to handle.

- Is the order worth the effort (see rest of this discussion)

- Is the variety restricted by license (patented) - if so, does the buyer have a license to grow it?

- Is the buyer a competitor?  We do sell to competitors because in this industry we usually help each other out.  After all, weather or other events beyond our control can affect our own source of budwood supply.  But if the competitor does not already grow and sell the variety and that variety is important to us, I may not sell the variety if it puts them in direct competition with us.  No need to make it easier for them.

- Do we have enough buds - after we cut our own.  Sometimes a large request comes before our own is cut and not easy to answer.  Sometimes a large request comes after we have cut and still not an easy answer.  It could entail a visit to all the trees and see how much vigor and wood is available.  This can take some extra time.

- Write up the order and make copies for order invoicing and the production manager/bud cutters

2) Production manager

- Looks up which trees to cut the buds from

- Finds the employees to do the work.  If we are not in bud cutting mode for ourselves, this requires pulling people from their crews, getting transportation and coordinating timing.

- - finds the bud cutters who cut the limbs from the trees

- - finds the de-leafers.

3) Bud cutters grab a vehicle and drive to the appropriate orchard(s) and the appropriate tree(s).  We have in the neighborhood of 25,000 trees/shrubs/vines in the orchards.  Taking ladders where necessary and labels and markers.

4) Cut branches are taken to de-leafers (or bud cutters do it themselves) who trim off the leaves, wrap, label and package the bud/scion sticks.  Wrapped bundles are taken to cold storage at the office for tomorrow's shipping (1/2 mile away from where buds are prepared).

5) We like to have the wood sit in cold storage overnight before air shipping late the next day.

6) Next day the UPS/FEDEX shipment is boxed, labeled, weighed and shipped by workers at the office.

7) Customer is invoiced and, if appropriate, credit card charged.  Invoices mailed.  Bookkeeping posts to account.

8) If charge account, I hope paid on time so we don't generate statements to mail and collect later.

As you can see, we are talking $50-100 in overhead people costs before the buds are actually cut plus cutting and packaging labor and shipping materials.  So the order needs to be significant enough to justify the whole process.

 

Ron Ludekens 10-20-2011

 


 

 
Seedless Muscat Grapes PDF Print Email
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Question: Are there seedless muscat grapes? Where do you fine theme. When does the grape ripen?
Thank You

Anna W. - San Jose, CA

Answer: Yes - we grow the Summer Muscat which is seedless. Ripens in August. More information here: Summer Muscat Grape

 

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More photos here: Summer Muscat Grape Photos

Call your local retail nurseries in San Jose or surrounding areas.  If they don't have them today, they can order them for delivery in January.

Ron Ludekens 9-7-2011

 

 
Fruiting Mulberries for Austin PDF Print Email
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Question:  I live in Austin, tx zone 8. Alkaline, shallow clay  soil with hot, dry summers.  Would the Pakistan, Black Beauty or Persian mulberry do well here? Which would you recommend. I tend to like fruit on the sweeter side.
Do you also have a local retail nursery you can recommend in the area  ?

Thank you.

Asha - Austin, TX

Answer: I think your comment about hot, dry summers is an understatement based upon this record breaking year you have been having!  Hope rain comes your way soon.

You have a lot of great independent retail nurseries in and around Austin and we sell to most of them so I would get myself in hot water recommending one over the others.  I will list them below with their phone numbers for you to call.  If they do not have any in stock, they can order them to arrive in January (bareroot delivery).

Which ones to chose?  First, they are all budded on Russian Mulberry rootstock - a tough, cold hardy rootstock that grows well nearly everywhere.  It will handle alkaline and clay.  Mulberries will require water although once well established they are pretty drought tolerant.  We can show you neglected mulberries in New Mexico where the weather is harsher than yours and surviving with no care from landlords.  The shallowness of your soil gives some concern for any tree.  If you can break through your hard-pan so the roots have somewhere to go for support and deeper water, you would be more successful.

The Pakistan, Black Beauty and Persian all have excellent fruit.  (Type in "mulberry" in the search box above for more articles/photos about fruiting mulberries).  All should produce well in your climate although I hesitate greatly about the Pakistan.  As a mature tree it will do well, but we find the youngest trees just out of our field harvest are not hardened off enough for cold weather in its first year.  Once you get it beyond the first winter, it should do well.  All three come from harsh climates (cold and hot) in the Middle East.  Although everyone is impressed by the long, good tasting Pakistan fruit, because of first year tenderness risk, you will be safer to enjoy the Persian or Black Beauty trees and fruit.  The Black Beauty is a smaller growing tree (or bush) so the choice between these two is usually over mature size desired.  Both come in tree or bush forms.

Here is a list, in alphabetical order, of nurseries in the Austin area which buy from us based on 2011-12 orders.  This list will be obsolete in successive years since things always change. You can call them to see if they have or will order the trees you want.

Barton Springs Nursery (Austin) - 512-328-7889

Green 'n Growing (Pflugerville) 512-251-3262

Hill Country Landscape (Austin) - 512-258-0093

It's About Thyme (Austin) - 512-280-1192

McIntire Garden Center (Georgetown) - 512-863-8243

The Natural Gardener (Austin) - 512-288-6113

Olde Thyme Gardens (Taylor) - 512-352-3147

Red Barn Garden Center (Austin) - 512-335-8093

Sledd Landscape Nursery (Austin) - 512-478-9977

Vincent Landscapes (Austin) - 512-263-5088

Enjoy!

Ron Ludekens 9-7-2011

 

 
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